Confused on who is stronger.

Rotation Advertisements

We hope you enjoy your visit to this forum.

If you are reading this then it means you are currently browsing the forum as a guest, we don’t limit any of the content posted from guests however if you join, you will have the ability to join the discussions! We are always happy to see new faces at this forum and we would like to hear your opinion, so why not register now? It doesn’t take long and you can get posting right away.

Click here to Register!

If you are having difficulties validating your account please email us at admin@dbzf.co.uk

If you're already a member please log in to your account:

Pages:
1
2

Confused on who is stronger.; Cell, Picon and Goku
Tweet Topic Started: Jul 9 2008, 03:35 AM (4,158 Views)
DbzNerd	Nov 8 2008, 07:09 PM Post #16
Posts: 355 Group: Member Member #3,761 Joined: October 21, 2008 Favourite Anime hunter x hunter, girls bravo Favourite Manga dbz, hunter x hunter, to love-ru	SP Cell totally outclass both Pikkon and SSJ Goku if it make some sense. They just made that filler because it will satisfy Goku fanboys and ease their pain of their hero Goku dieing agin but this time at least he did something cool in the other world like beating Pikkon who totally Pwned SP Cell. But if we use common sense. SP Cell >>> Perfect Cell >> SSJ Goku >=< Pikkon



UltimateGohan	Nov 18 2008, 12:52 AM Post #17
Posts: 802 Group: Member Member #2,807 Joined: October 31, 2007	Perfect cell and goku are about equal strength, the only thing is that cell has regeneration and thats why goku couldnt keep up, he was getting tired. When cell was killed im sure he was still SP Cell he was just percect cell and the fight after goku faught cell most lilkley made goku stronger..... this should be right ---> Pikkon > SSJ Goku > Perfect Cell
	Gohan your the man !!!


Emperor Cold	Nov 18 2008, 05:25 AM Post #18
Makaioshin Posts: 317 Group: Member Member #3,724 Joined: October 5, 2008 Favourite Anime Dragonball/Z/GT (yes I like GT...imagine that!) Detective Conan, FMA (original), Yu Yu Hakusho Favourite Manga Anything by Akira Toriyama	I have a theory that attempts to make sense out of toei's inconsistencies pertaining to dead villains: Spending time in hell weakens evil souls. Otherwise, hell would have been completely overrun by the end of GT by the likes of Broly, Bojack, Omega Shenron, etc. This would explain how Pikkon beat Cell and how Tien, Yamcha, and Chaozu defeated the Ginyu Force.



Gokan	Nov 19 2008, 10:56 AM Post #19
Posts: 107 Group: Member Member #3,783 Joined: November 4, 2008 Favourite Anime DragonballZ Favourite Manga Dragonball Z	but the ginyu force was in king kais planet limbo kind of wouldnt they have the same strength?



+ Rebel X	Nov 19 2008, 03:07 PM Post #20
Posts: 11,612 Group: Legend Member #88 Joined: January 16, 2005	Emperor Cold Nov 18 2008, 05:25 AM I have a theory that attempts to make sense out of toei's inconsistencies pertaining to dead villains: Spending time in hell weakens evil souls. Otherwise, hell would have been completely overrun by the end of GT by the likes of Broly, Bojack, Omega Shenron, etc. This would explain how Pikkon beat Cell and how Tien, Yamcha, and Chaozu defeated the Ginyu Force. It's a good theory but then that would mean cell wasn't really there that long to have his power weakened. It was like moments after he died that he was sent to hell and teamed up with frieza.



Gokan	Nov 27 2008, 12:21 PM Post #21
Posts: 107 Group: Member Member #3,783 Joined: November 4, 2008 Favourite Anime DragonballZ Favourite Manga Dragonball Z	yeah but his powers must have been weakened a little to make Pikon beat him or maybe otherworld makes good people stronger hence why Goku reached super siayan 3. He wasn't limited to Earth's restrictions.



Cellgeta	Nov 30 2008, 09:19 PM Post #22
Posts: 106 Group: Member Member #3,536 Joined: July 9, 2008 Favourite Anime DBZ	Gokan Nov 27 2008, 12:21 PM yeah but his powers must have been weakened a little to make Pikon beat him or maybe otherworld makes good people stronger hence why Goku reached super siayan 3. He wasn't limited to Earth's restrictions. No, going to hell doesn't "weaken" anyones powers. If that was the case, it would have been mentioned in DBZ. Pikon caught Cell offgaurd with that kick. Cell wasn't expecting anything out of Pikon, just Goku. Pikon didn't "defeat" Cell, he just got a lucky kick on him. I am sure if Pikon went up against Cell on Earth, Cell would have owned him. As for Goku, Goku is a smart fighter. When Goku was fighting Pikon, it was apparent that Pikon had Goku beat but since Goku is an experienced smart fighter, he was able to defeat Pikon.



Gokan	Dec 1 2008, 09:31 AM Post #23
Posts: 107 Group: Member Member #3,783 Joined: November 4, 2008 Favourite Anime DragonballZ Favourite Manga Dragonball Z	yeah ok your right but one question in GT was Cell and Frieza stronger than they werre before



DbzNerd	Dec 6 2008, 01:34 AM Post #24
Posts: 355 Group: Member Member #3,761 Joined: October 21, 2008 Favourite Anime hunter x hunter, girls bravo Favourite Manga dbz, hunter x hunter, to love-ru	There is no such thing that Pikkon can even fight SP Cell let alone PHASE him. Villains do not keep there body when they die and that is 100% fact. Everything is just a filler made by Toei just 2 make Goku look cool and powerful but since this is a debate I'll state the reason y he can't even keep up against Cell. Reaons 1. Perfect Cell (suppress) fought dead even with MSSJ Goku but still got the upper hand. 2. Perfect Cell (full power) Goku and co was all shock to see that Cell maxium was this high other than SSJ2 Gohan . 3. Super Perfect Cell owned ASSJ Vegeta and injured SSJ2 Gohan so this prove that his power is at least close to or less than SSJ2 Gohan seeing that he made Gohan lost his hope. 4. Pikkon and Goku where dead even when fighting but Pikkon had the upper hand. From what we see there Pikkon and Perfect Cell (suppress) both gave Goku a hard fight but seeing that Cell made Goku gave up Cell is stronger than Pikkon or at least equal. If Pikkon is only equal to Perfect Cell (suppress) THERE i repeat THERE is no way Pikkon can even PHASE SP Cell surprise attack or not it make completely no sense so therefore if we use logic. SSJ2 Gohan >= SP Cell >>> Perfect Cell (full power) >> Cell (suppress) >= Pikkon > MSSJ Goku.



Cellgeta	Dec 16 2008, 06:55 PM Post #25
Posts: 106 Group: Member Member #3,536 Joined: July 9, 2008 Favourite Anime DBZ	They didn't train for the tournament. It happened right away. If they trained for the tournament they would have mentioned it in one of the episodes.



Damaged	Dec 19 2008, 01:52 AM Post #26
Posts: 3,061 Group: Member Member #2,458 Joined: July 28, 2007 Gender Male Favourite Anime Naruto Favourite Manga Naruto	Cellgeta Jul 9 2008, 03:35 AM Remember when Picon was sent by the Grand Kai to go to Hell and take care of Frieza, the Ginyu force and Cell? Well, what I am confused about is how Picon easily puts Cell in his place but yet in the tournament Goku is able to beat Picon (even though it was technically a draw). However, druing the Cell Games Saga, even just the Perfect Cell and was able to beat Goku. So if Picon beats up SSJ2 Cell, Goku beats/gives Picon a really good fight in the tournament and Cell not even fully powed up yet or at his strongest point beats Goku in the Cell games, then what is going on? Sorry if that sounds confusing but you guys should know what I am talking about. It's hard to explain this stuff on the internet. Ok, like always I'm just going to sum this up, due to the lack of knowledge in situations like this. Basically what you want to do with most American Made Fillers, you want to try and avoid them because they're *****. So this is why this whole entire section of Dragonball Z was ruined. Ok with this bit and all of Dragonball, everyone moves on and can always match up top the baddies strength but theres always that one little problem which always occurs. Now basically, CONTINUE LATER. GTG.
	- I don't know how to paint black skies blue.


Super_Vegito	Dec 19 2008, 11:20 AM Post #27
Posts: 12 Group: New Member Member #3,863 Joined: December 19, 2008 Favourite Anime Dragon Ball Z What Browser do you use? Mozilla Firefox	I often wondered if Goku held back any power against Cell and just wanted Gohan to beat him because he knew Gohan had the power.



Cellgeta	Dec 20 2008, 06:21 AM Post #28
Posts: 106 Group: Member Member #3,536 Joined: July 9, 2008 Favourite Anime DBZ	BluPiccolo Dec 19 2008, 01:52 AM Cellgeta Jul 9 2008, 03:35 AM Remember when Picon was sent by the Grand Kai to go to Hell and take care of Frieza, the Ginyu force and Cell? Well, what I am confused about is how Picon easily puts Cell in his place but yet in the tournament Goku is able to beat Picon (even though it was technically a draw). However, druing the Cell Games Saga, even just the Perfect Cell and was able to beat Goku. So if Picon beats up SSJ2 Cell, Goku beats/gives Picon a really good fight in the tournament and Cell not even fully powed up yet or at his strongest point beats Goku in the Cell games, then what is going on? Sorry if that sounds confusing but you guys should know what I am talking about. It's hard to explain this stuff on the internet. Ok, like always I'm just going to sum this up, due to the lack of knowledge in situations like this. Basically what you want to do with most American Made Fillers, you want to try and avoid them because they're *****. So this is why this whole entire section of Dragonball Z was ruined. Ok with this bit and all of Dragonball, everyone moves on and can always match up top the baddies strength but theres always that one little problem which always occurs. Now basically, CONTINUE LATER. GTG. read the thread instead of jumping to the end and making your response.



1 user reading this topic (1 Guest and 0 Anonymous)

Our users say it best: "A great way to make a forums for free and it is very reliable as well. Thank you Zetaboards." Learn More · Register Now
« Previous Topic · Dragon Ball/Z Discussion · Next Topic »

Pages:
1
2